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LimShady
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #1
Preface -

My 'spoiler' philosophy is fairly simple, I generally don't believe that a brief description of the events and characters in the first episode of a series should be considered 'spoilers', any more than the description on the 'back of the box' for a video should. It is often necessary to use examples from an episode in order to illustrate the points that are being made in a review. But if you are of the opinion that 'any' information about a show is a 'spoiler', then you really should stop reading at this point.

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I didn't get to see 'Saishuu Heiki Kanojo' aka 'Saikano' when it first came out because my friend in Japan didn't receive it at the time on her various cable and satellite channels. But I read a number of glowing recommendations for it and so I wandered off to the official web site at http://www.saikano.net/ to check it out. There, I was able to read the teaser, look at the character designs and listen to the three main theme songs.

I wasn't enthusiastic about what I found at the site. My first impression was colored by the two alternate English names for the show, 'She, the Ultimate Weapon', and 'The Last Love Song on This Little Planet'. Then there were the images of the heroine Chise, who stood there morosely with a sci-fi weapon growing out of her right arm, sort of like a cross between 'Trigun' and 'Project Arms'. The theme songs didn't do much for me either; they were pure 'elevator Muzak', straight out of a 'Denny's' restaurant. What this appeared to be was just another variation on 'Mahoromatic', which was not one of my favorite recent purchases.

Yet, because of all the enthusiastic reviews 'Saikano' received, I agonized for a while on whether or not I should spend the money to order the first DVD and try it out. I vacillated and vacillated, and finally was saved from the decision by the recent start of a re-broadcast of the series on the Kansai regional TBS channel in the same time slot in which 'Chobits' had just finished. So last night I got to watch the first episode.

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The show starts out with the hero, Shuji, walking alone through the snow and darkness to a covered platform overlooking the dark countryside. He starts to remember things, and suddenly hears some bells tinkling in the wind. He turns and looks into an alcove and sees ( surprisingly uncovered by snow or debris ) some school bags. Shuji goes over to the school bags, pulls out a diary, and starts to reminisce.

We now flash back to a sunny day when in Shuji is walking to high school. A little voice calls from behind him and we see little Chise trying to catch up to the tall Shuji. Shuji tells us about Chise; she is small, weak and frail. She also apologizes for herself all the time. Chise likes Shuji and wants him to share a diary with her. Shuji reluctantly agrees and the two go off to school. We then see the two of them slowly going from friends to boyfriend/girlfriend until finally, at that terrace from the first scene, Shuji agrees to be Chise's boyfriend and they kiss.

All of the above flashback was done in a deliberately slow style, with an attempt to make the kids seem realistic, a la 'Too Heart'. ( Another 'popular' series that I was fortunate enough to be able to see from the TV broadcast instead of paying for a video. ) Everything is depicted as very 'ordinary', other than the occasional troop movement going on in the background, or the overflights of fighter jets.

Then, one afternoon while Shuji and his buddies are out buying trinkets for their girlfriends, everything changes. And at this point my 'suspension of disbelief' mental circuitry took a big hit and crashed completely. The guys hear some loud booms and assume that an earthquake is happening. They run out of the underground mall to see an incredible sight; the sky is black with bombers, flying low and slow as they carpet bomb the city. Do our bright high school seniors go back downstairs to the relative safety of the underground? No, they run out into the street to try to 'out run' the bombers.

Huh? Sure I know those bombers are flying slowly, but even assuming a stall-speed of say, only a 100 knots, which is pretty much impossible for any large jet, no one is going to out run a plane.

The bombs start to fall near the buddies. The guy who just bought a pink quartz heart for his girlfriend is killed. The fighter jets fly out to shoot down the bombers, but the bombers are too strong. Then Shuji sees a pink beam flashing out of a building towards the attacking planes. The beam starts to shoot down the bombers. But a bomb or missile hits in the center of the city, with a resulting huge blast that destroys most everything. Shuji is smashed to the ground. ( For some reason his glasses don't shatter; I guess that he needs to be able to recognize what happens next. )

Shuji gets up all bloody and dirty, but still alive. ( But not for long if that was a small tactical nuclear blast. ) Out of the flames and smoke walks Chise, still wearing her school uniform but with her right arm transformed into some sort of super weapon/gun. Shuji surmises that it was Chise who was shooting down the bombers. He also notices Band-Aides on Chise's knees; she had similar Band-Aides on her knees a few scenes before. Shuji staggers up to Chise and hugs her; her right arm is now back to normal. And thus ended Episode 1.

So what's wrong with this series besides being excruciatingly slow for the first half of the episode, and devolving into pure 'idiot plot' in the second half? Well, let's look at the 'suspension of disbelief' failure first off. As soon as I saw that sky full of bombers I got really twitchy. It reminded me too much of the old, really bad SF stories in 1930's pulp magazines. Why would anyone fly big, expensive bombers very slow and very low? Even the USAF in WW II flew carpet bombing missions only at night. Daytime missions were at 30,000 feet to minimize flack and stop the interceptors from getting to the bombers. Bombers are way too expensive and way too hard to replace to waste.

Of course, the reason for the 'low and slow' is simple; it's to allow Chise to shoot down the planes. If they were instead flying in stealth mode at 80,000 feet, or 10 feet off the ground at 600 knots, there would be no chance for her 'one girl' heroics. And that is the point that is being driven into the viewer's face here; this isn't a 'war story', it's an 'Anti-War Story'. And in an 'Anti-War Story', what is 'important' is the 'Message', not trivial things like originality of plot, self-consistency of story line, or the appropriateness of the characters to the situation. This is audience manipulation of the most blatant kind.

Okay, so we are being told in a very unsubtle manner that this is going to be a 'serious' and 'sad' story. I'm reminded of the line in the 'One Minute Critic' web site that says something like, 'This is sad. This must then be important Literature'. At the same time I'm reminded of the old quote for which I can no longer remember the correct attribution,

'The conflict between Good and Evil is melodrama. Tragedy is the conflict between Good and Good.'

As far as I could see from Episode 1, all we have so far in 'Saikano' is some didactic melodrama.

Never-the-less, I'm going to keep watching the series for a while. Every 'season' I watch one 'popular' anime that I don't really like, just in case it eventually causes my opinion to change. But let me tell you; after watching Episode 1, I almost needed Band-Aides on my own knees, because I was down on them, praying loud and hard, 'Thank God I didn't spend money on this piece of crap!'

Dave Baranyi
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #2
This is raam, a discussion group where people gather to talk about...

.... wait for it....

ANIME!

Yes, we watch a series, then we talk about it!

If someone DOESN'T want to be 'spoiled', then DON'T OPEN THREADS WITH SUBJECT HEADERS THAT CLEARLY INDICATE THE DISCUSSION OF SAID SERIES!

Is it really that difficult to understand? Is the concept too advanced for certain sectors of anime fandom?

BTW, I'm there when SaiKano gets its R1 discs released for sale (all 13 eps, and it had better not take until the winter of 2004 to get this done). An excellent series... far above the average anime fare.
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #3
I'm glad I'm not the only one who disliked this show due to stuff like this. :-P

I enjoyed it up until the bombs started falling. At that point I simply couldn't take it seriously. The very first thing that went through my head is 'how come they can't shoot these slow, low-flying bombers down and need some supergirl to do it? they're sitting ducks!'

You're correct that bombers flew high and out of range in WWII. In fact, not long after WWII, bombers stopped flying in formation period because a tactical nuclear missile could take out the whole formation in one shot.

Also the idea of an otherwise nondescript cute girl being made for no reason into a superweapon simply made no sense in a serious show. It works in a comedy (see Rizelmine for an example) but not in a situation where I'm supposed to believe whatever is going on. :-P
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #4
Seeing the UY quote in your sig reminded me of how UY regularly made fun of the 'massive formations of bombers' - I couldn't help but expect to see the Mendo octopus sign on the planes. (g)

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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #5
This is an exact description of the new character in Mahoromatic season 2. Have you seen any of it? (snip)
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #6
No - after having forced my way through the first season due to having already spent the money on the DVDs sight unseen, I couldn't raise my interest level enough even to watch the TV broadcast of the second season, although my friend could tape it for me.

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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #7
It's not that simple. With a *lot* of newsreaders, deleting a message will automatically present you with the next. Without prompting. Without showing you the next message's subject line. Perfectly reasonable, yes? I mean, you're done with that message, there's more messages in the newsgroup. No point forcing people to make three or four more keystrokes or mouseclicks, and it doesn't cause a problem if everyone uses spoiler space.

Now, you combine your 'I use the newsreader on my webbrowser' mentality with that of people like me [I use the textmode newsreader PINE, and have no choice in the matter] and you've got a clash; they don't work well together. Since it's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for people like me to adapt to your paradigm, you're going to have to change to fit with us.

Putting in spoiler space is not some burdensome requirement. It takes less than two seconds. It takes less than thirty bytes. It, in short, has as near to zero cost as anything in this world, and it has a rather large benefit.

If you *don't* understand it, I'm going to have to be forced to dig through the PINE manual to find out exactly what I have to do to protect myself myself; likely I'll have to kllfile you. I have never done this before; the filter system on pine is hideously arcane, and i've never felt the need. But, faced with your attitude, I would have no choice.

Do you understand now?
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #8
Falling I Am Fading) wrote: Anime featuring Cute Girls as military weapons:

Mahoromatic Saikano Magical Project S Macross /// Robotech Steel Angel Kurumi Cat Girl Nuku-Nuku Blue Sonnet Excel Saga Angel Links Sol Bianca Legacy Agent Aika Armitage III Galaxy Fraulein Yuna Ninja Scroll Defender Mao-chan Voogie's Angel Figure 17 Kiddy Grade G_On Riders Full Metal Panic Noir Saber Marionettes Generator Gawl Gokudo (the Ultimate Weapon Buddha) Cleopatra DC DragonBall Z (Android 18) Bubblegum Crisis 2040

(Manga) Seraphic Feather (Manga) Hyper Dolls (Manga) Android Maico 2010 (Manga) Silbuster (Manga) My Dear Marie

I exclude Cutey Honey, Battle Angel Gally, Assemble: Insert, Space Pirate Mito, Iczer One, Ghost in the Shell, Yamamoto Yohko, and Magic Knights Rayearth because they are not treated as being pieces of equipment (whereas the Noir girls, for example, are).
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #9
You almost wish that they hand-waved it away somehow... which they could have gotten along with, given that there's enough technology around to make something like Chise. 'Oh, the shield projectors are really large and bulky' or something, huh? I mean, so long as we're complaining about technology, why bombers at all? But, then again, why carpet-bomb an urban area?

But I didn't have a problem with it being what, for all intents and purposes, was the selection of the most timid girl they could find. C'mon, folks, Chise is a one-person army; they don't have two of them; they don't have any way of stopping her other than withholding her medication, which would work in the long term but not quickly enough to keep her from, say, killing -every person in Japan-. If you gave me that kind of power, and then ordered me to go fight somebody, I'd probably respond with a 'that's SIRE to you'. ;p

So, if you're going to turn one person into a devastating independent weapon, who do you pick? Somebody who submits to authority easily, who does what they're told without complaining, and has absolutely no ambition whatsoever. (Yeah, you'd think 'fiery patriot' for a moment, but if that person suddenly decides that government tax policies aren't in line with his ideology? ^_^ Chise fits that kind of requirement perfectly.

Avatar wants a Chise plushie
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #10
[...]

Actually, you've got it backwards on some of the ones in your list: they feature military weapons as Cute Girls.

But for those of us who like weapons _and_ cute girls, either is the ideal anime.
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Posted 1 Year, 11 Months ago #11
The bombers have to fly low to avoid interception by the satelite defense net. There aren't really a lot of them; most of the bombers you can see are holographic projections to draw fire away from the real planes. The reason for using bombers is because the bombs have relatively weak explosives, so it takes a lot of them. They don't use stronger bombs because they don't want to damage the deep sub surface shelters. The planes fly slowly because that gives them more time to drop their payload. The defenders can't shoot the planes down because political corruption has resulted in them being ordered not to resist. -Galen Hasn't seen it, but I'll explain anything.
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